MM: I mean, The Germs definitely had something of interest to them. But I think The Screamers are the ones that deserved recognition as what could have been the most important band from that era. Their music was excellent. Yeah, they were good, we saw them when we were like, cos we came over really cocky cos we’d gone to New York and kind of freaked people out cos they’d watched Talking Heads and Television and all these bands form, in school, and they’d watch them trade partners around, and Blondie, everyone would swap around members and The Ramones would become who they were going to become, and they watched them develop. And Devo showed up, we showed up putting up posters all over Manhattan that we’d printed for 50 cents a piece that were big. And people were like ‘Oh, these guys are putting up like little 8 by ten’… and we had these yellow outfits and a whole vernacular and a set of songs that didn’t sound like anything else they were hearing, so we quite quickly became a phenomenon in New York, where we weren’t making any money but our guest list was always like, all the Rolling Stones, um, Brian Eno, Robert Fripp…
RH: David Bowie…
MM: John Lennon. All these people would be on our guest list. We’d have like Jack Nicholson, everybody wanted to see Devo in those days. So we left there going ‘We don’t have a record deal and we don’t have any money, but we’re doing something right’ and we felt really good about it and we thought ‘We’re going to take over Hollywood’ and we kind of in a way did really well out here, but they were the band that we were watching thinking ‘That’s it. That’s the band.’ They should have been.